Michael Moore: Wisconsin Has 'Roused a Sleeping Giant'

This is a story that needs to be told…and who better to tell it? Movie, please! *grabbyhands*

This is a story that needs to be told…and who better to tell it? Movie, please! *grabbyhands*

Thank you Wisconsin for lighting the fire back in the American soul.nnThank you Michael Moore for putting this struggle for justice, fairness and liberty in such wonderful context.nnAnd God bless the “Wisconsin 14″ for their courage to stand in the breach against this evil corporate tide to enslave all Americans and consign us to slave-labor wages for ever.

Recommend watching 60 Minutes… (look for podcast) 25% children in poverty. Heart breaking. How can Americans allow tax breaks for the top 2% and corporations can pay 0% for the year!? They discussed the disappearance of the Middle Class. How much longer will it take when we are just uncomfortable enough to put a stop to the looting going on on Wallstreet? How much longer till we put a stop to corporate welfare? When do we say, “That’s Enough” of special interests buying off our Representatives? We know this shit is going on, but we’re too Danm comfortable. nnHow about taking away the “Health Care for Life” to all members of Congress and Senate. And let’s also stop the “Salary for Life” once they retire from office. nnMembers of the Republican Party have been telling us that they are going to stop the “Gravy Train” for our teachers, for all of us. Except (of course) the wealthy 2%. I for one have had/heard enough. nnThe dismantling of infrastructure to our great country so we’ll except the PRIVATIZING of everything. This is the core plot. Deregulation, No unions, no reprodutive rights, NO OPOSITION! Another hate campaign against a another minority (Gays). I’ve had/heard enough.nnNow I’ll ask, How comfortable are you? Have you seen food prices? Have you seen gas prices? How is your retirement looking. Or maybe you want to go to college. Are you still comfortable. Have you had/heard enough?

nscott r. (1)tnSunday March 6, 2011, 1:32 pmnfrom the New York times Union teaches Michael Moore a lesson nMichael Moore, champion of the working class, used non-union stagehands to film “Capitalism: A Love Story.” nnThe porcine provocateur is promoting his anti-Wall Street jeremiad by giving free tickets to unions, but the American Federation of Teachers has turned them down because Moore didnu2019t hire any members of the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees. nn”Michael Moore and one of our sister unions, IATSE, are in discussions about concerns the union has,” the AFT told ABC News. “The AFT has decided against accepting tickets until those issues are resolved.” just thought id put some balance on here and no one would say the new york times is a right wing paper

Democrats that don’t fold and bow to the republicans. Obama could learn a thing or two from them.

“Wisconsin has roused a sleeping giant” and he is Michael Moore – all 320 pounds of him! This guy is to “progressive” causes what Jesse Jackson is to racial issues. In short, how can he spin the blame, then extort money from those “at fault?” What a blowhard.

Just watched “Robin Hood” with Russell Crowe and Cate Blanchett. We’ve been living under King John!

Interesting that the “sleeping giant” is awakened when they are about to lose what others pay for. These are PUBLIC SECTOR unions, paid for by MY private sector taxes. I am not rich, but I work hard for my money.nTo see public sector unions taking my taxes, then support politicians who will increase ONLY their benefits, at my expense, now this is disheartening.nLet’s be clear on why they are “awakened”.

I agree. When this guy REDISTRIBUTES his own wealth FIRST, then come talk to me about taking what little I make, to support people and groups I do not wish to support, yet have no say in being forced to support via my taxes.

I have to agree with Moore, Wisconsin has awaken a sleeping Giant and the Giants name is the American Taxpayer and he is fed up with the greedy Unions living on his dole when he is struggling to survive himself.nOnce the Unions are busted coast to coast it will be the end of the Democratic party….just goes to show who owns the Democratic party.

And your attitude is just what the Republicans and the rich in this country are counting on. Divide the workers against their own best interests and get ever richer. This is about the rich paying their fair share not cutting the salaries of hard working public sector employees.

Others also pay your private sector earnings when we buy the necessities of life controlled by the private sector. We are taxed by your profits on food, clothing, shelter, health care, communication, transportation,etc at ever increasing expense. None of this could function without public sector workers and tax dollars. We earn negligible interest on what little we might save while bankers take home record profits and put them in tax shelters. Take off those shades and see the light.

This response is from an AMERICAN: not a conservative or a liberal. Just an AMERICAN. Uncompromising conservative and liberal ideologies are what is destroying this beloved and great nation for which I voluntarily served in the U. S. Army as a no-body-private during the Vietnam War Era when others were fleeing to Canada and burning their draft cards. I wish that we’d remember the Revolutionary War saying: “United we stand; divided we fall.” My greatest concern is that we all fall into an abyss from which there will be no returning. Please pray for a UNITED AMERICA. She needs the prayers badly. Thanks so much from the bottom of my saddened heart.

Since when is making money for having taken risk to start a company, and doing the hard work to make it happen, unAmerican? If someone takes the risk to start a company, or their parents took that risk and then pass down their wealth to their offspring, why do you decry this? Why are you so averse to someone making money from their good idea and risk? You say the term “rich” like it’s a bad word.

Since the super rich in this country made it a bad word by becoming greedier and greedier. I am not talking about someone starting a company that makes something or provides a service who employs people and gives them a living wage. It is the super rich making money off of Wall Street speculation that drives up prices for everyone including gasoline or companies that send good paying jobs overseas where they can get dirt cheap labor and no environmental regulation. Wake up! If people don’t have good paying jobs there is no money to buy things and no jobs for others to make money and your company goes down the tubes with the rest of us.

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The sleeping giant must be the American People, who finally get their priorities right. Corporate welfare is wrong, paying taxes so your fellow man can live in dignity is right. When you complain about the Unions, think about it – does it seem fair that so few rich people should have it all? Why do you get so wound up if a firefighter somewhere has a great pension and medical plan? Would it kill Goldman Sachs or Exxon Moblile to pay higher taxes so that more “regular” people can have a higher standard of living? What I speak of isn’t about that old worn out “communism” crap, its common sense. People just can’t get by in this country on 36k a year which a good teacher makes these days – can’t be done. If you think this country isn’t run by the rich, you are really deluding yourself and your community. So many posts are so full of hatred and political ideology that it is quite clear you will cut your noses off to spite your faces. Sad.

Who was the dickwad with the horn?

What is rich to you. I hear this all the time from the left-the “greedy millionaires and billionaires” . Who doesn’t want to work hard and become a million or billionaire. You left wing people speak of it like its a bad think to achieve. Many people become rich from hard work, taking a risk on an idea or just taking a risk to start their own company. Here is a little info for the left-wing class warfare people-If you are a S corp. Say your company makes $250,000.00 net a year. This puts you in the top tax bracket. Being a S corp this is considered the owners taxable income. Now the owner has to pay the government 85-100 thousand dollars in taxes. Now a 150,000.00 dollars is left at the end of the year after taxes. This sounds like a great salary. The problem is, now the owner has an operating expense for his company of somewhere around 100,000.00 for the up and coming year. The owner has payroll,insurance, overhead and other things that go with running a business. The owner now pays himself 50,000.00 for the year. The so- called rich greedy owner is really not that rich. Remember this is the person who has all the risk and most likely ,works the longest hours by far.The left has been playing class warfare for the past 60 years and its getting worse each year .We are so focused on what everyone else has and what we don’t have. If people want to make more money for themselves then they should try starting a business. Its so easy. You know like working 90 hours a week, never seeing your kids, employing 30 people who depend on you every week,supporting 25 families-sounds like fun. We need to stop worrying about the so called rich . Last time I checked I never heard of a poor person signing someones pay check. Ill stop because I could write forever on this subject. Paying their fair share -what is that number again. By the way, when construction companies that are union, don’t win jobs that they bid on, they harass the nonunion companies who won the job. Why are the union workers the only ones that are allowed to feed their family. The construction unions are so corrupt. Where are the left wing people when you need them. I thought they fight for the middle class. That’s right, if your not union, you don’t count.

Michael Moore has the Charlie Sheen disease. He is delusional, violent, angry and disgusting to watch.

The only reason jobs go over seas is that UNIONS priced themselves out of a job.nNow public UNIONS will banckrupt all the states.

Once you could buy a toaster, a vacuum, or anything and expect it to work for years to come. Services were done right and quickly while putting the American people first.nn For 30 years we’ve been trained to expect nothing for too much. 200$ items can go in months. You can spend hours on hold just trying to talk to a person. And tech support means you will waste hours dealing with the untrained non-English speaking 1st and 2nd tier person before finally getting to the trained & better paid worker who can actually help you.nnAmericans just take it. While training us to spend more and get less, American workers have been trained to work harder for less as well. We work harder, but our standard of living is worse than our parents. Our children r expected to do even worse than us. n nAlong with cheapening our goods and services and not paying workers a living wage, Deregulation has even added to their huge profits while diminishing safety for both people and the planet. And with all this big profit, they pay little if any tax.nn Now the corporations, with the help of the republicans that work for them, are coming after your unions, your school, your social services, your rights as a whole. nnWe are well underway to be becoming a 3rd world country. Wisconsin is finally standing up! Stand with them!

THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE LITTLE MA AND PA STORE! THEY PAY THEIR TAXES…TOO MUCH. THIS IS ABOUT BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATIONS MANY OF WHICH DON’T OFFER MANY JOBS IN THIS COUNTRY OR PAY TAXES HERE. nnOnce you could buy a toaster, a vacuum, or anything and expect it to work for years to come. Services were done right and quickly while putting the American people first.nn For 30 years we’ve been trained to expect nothing for too much. 200$ items can go in months. You can spend hours on hold just trying to talk to a person. And tech support means you will waste hours dealing with the untrained non-English speaking 1st and 2nd tier person before finally getting to the trained & better paid worker who can actually help you.nnAmericans just take it. While training us to spend more and get less, American workers have been trained to work harder for less as well. We work harder, but our standard of living is worse than our parents. Our children r expected to do even worse than us. n nAlong with cheapening our goods and services and not paying workers a living wage, Deregulation has even added to their huge profits while diminishing safety for both people and the planet. And with all this big profit, they pay little if any tax.nn Now the corporations, with the help of the republicans that work for them, are coming after your unions, your school, your social services, your rights as a whole. nnWe are well underway to be becoming a 3rd world country. Wisconsin is finally standing up! Stand with them!nnIF YOU WANT YOUR LIFE BACK TO BEFORE REAGAN, LOOK UP TO WHAT HAS BEEN LOST TO THE RICH MAN IN THE PRIVATE JET, NOT TO THE LOWLY TEACHER MAKING $48,000.00 A YEAR

Iu2019m a Canadian, teaching English in Indonesia.nI was talking to an American teacher at school today. From Nashville, a real Tennesee southern boy. A good ol’ boy. But not of the crispy ‘Cracker’ variety. Surprisingly open-minded, for an American from the South. He has a brother in Nashville, who has to drive to Atlanta every Monday and back every Friday, to work at the Federal Reserve there (something to do with handling dollar bills and stuff for the bank (the BIG one, that is). So … he has arthritis, just got his job back recently at reduced pay. Can’t really handle it, literally, he has to work all day with his hands and paper cash (Bundling it? Stacking it? I don’t know), has, along with reduced pay, reduced benefits (he’s a Federal gov’t employee, presumably). Goes to the ‘Health Plan’ doctor, and is told he (the doctor) won’t back him if he wants ‘Disability’. As John says, his brother is approaching pension age, can’t work, facing a u2018no incomeu2019 situation. Was a rabid rightwinger, until now. John says, ‘He’s seen the light’. Or is it actually the Darkness? The big Darkness that’s engulfing the U.S. nWhile it’s exciting, from the sidelines, as it were. It’s also some seriously scary shitstorm that’s on the verge of erupting! As we know, the Mainstream Media, especially UberRat Murdoch and Fux News, ignore it, or belittle and jeer at it. But it would seem it may be at their peril, this time around. John says, someone should find out their mansions and 5th Avenue penthouses, and Palm Beach palaces and publish the addresses on the web. The Koch Bros, all the frauds on Wall Street, Murdoch and all the 400 people who have more money than 50% of the entire U.S. population combined. Along with clear directions on the best way to burn themn Lots of people seem to be waking up really pissed off these days. And they don’t even know the half of how they’ve been suckered since Reagan. Imagine if the stuff we read on Alternet was being broadcast to all of ‘them’ on a major prime time news show? The way the lunatic right stuff has been pouring into their eyes and ears from the MSM boobtube channels for the last god knows how long? n Moore is right in the front lines. And a few others from the “Entertainment” biz: Cusack, Tim Robbins, Susan Sarandon, Clooney, Penn etc. n But you’d think somewhere, there’ s a ton of money and talent that could be used to make an Alternet/ Truthout-type news program and get it aired on something somewhere. I love Jon Stewart, for what he does. But he’s also mostly “preaching to the choir” on Comedy Central. A serious, progressive/liberal/leftist (call it whatever dumb label you choose!) news channel is what America needs, right now. Where are the all the so-called Leftist Media ‘elite’, Spiro Agnew used to rant about (he thought they were all u2018homosexuals from New Yorku2019, of course!). Sad to say, most of them are at the ‘Trough’ with the rest of the pigs who donu2019t pay taxes, unfortunately. n To the Astroturf Brigade, and those like Lifeforchild: havenu2019t you heard?nExxon (yeah, that Exxon. Biggest Corporation in the world!) paid 0, thatu2019s ZERO, thatu2019s NO TAXES last year. In fact, they got a – guess how much? – $154 million refund. Bank of America? Paid a lot less tax than you, Mr Small Businessman. Face it, you ainu2019t the Koch Brothers, never will be. Theyu2019ve got their hooks in you, just like they do every working person in America. You pay the bills, not the Uberrich like the Koch Brothers and Rupert Murdoch. n What’s ironic is that all this stuff u2013 the union-busting Republican state governors, the lack of help for foreclosure-sufferers, the constant attacks on what they hoped were defenseless ‘Sheeple’ and often a big part of their voter “Base”, the moving of jobs out of the country u2013 has finally gotten to be too much. Even for the often- conservative, flag-waving, NASCAR-loving, beer-drinking, Country & Western kind of people. Example: my friend John’s brother. Let us not forget, a lot of them are also the kind of people who own probably 3 or 4 guns, and know how use ‘em, boy! Hell, there’s probably quite a few of them in ‘Militia’ groups. As John says, there’s a lot of militia people out there in places like Wisconsin and Michigan and Ohio and New Jersey and … etc. nNon-violent protest would be great, yeah? Ghandi-style. But you don’t ‘do that’ very well in the U.S. Remember the Civil Rights marches in the South? Chicago in ’68? Remember Kent State, 1970? The weekend National Guard soldiers with live ammunition in their guns got a little ‘over-rattled’ and 4 kids were dead. Fluke? History, never to be repeated? We’ll have to wait and see. Gotta say, you don’t seem to learn much from history down there.n Meanwhile, the stupid Republicans are shooting themselves in the foot politically, as they attack the very people who vote for them, people dreaming of being as rich as the Koch Bros, or any millionaire/billionaire whose life is paraded before them every day on the MSM as something attainable – because god knows, this is America, where anything that breathes and walks upright can be President, right?n So the great GOP is imploding, self-destructing. They’re having a tough time finding someone to seriously run for POTUS this time. I mean, Donald Trump?!!! That’s gotta GOP desperation, yeah? Glenn Beck’s about to lose his contract at Fox. Governor Walker won’t be able to get a job milking cows in Wisconsin. It seems nobody actually wants to run for the Republicans against Obama next time around. And the “Right” and “Left” sure do hate each other a lot! Betcha lots of people from both sides are home oiling up their guns right now.nHeads up, boys! Keep your wits about you! It’s about to get very weird, I think.n

You hit the nail on the head. The Big Picture for the Right and their Corporate Masters is this: Destroy the people’s ability to organize effectively, hit them in their pocketbooks, and consign them to slave-labor wages so they can only afford bare necessities. nnOur only hope to withstand this relentless Corporate assault to pay Americans slave-labor wages, destroy the middle class and thus hold unmitigated sway over our lives (our “souls” as Michael Moore put it) is through a United front. And what better way than through a Unionized Work Force? nnThe ugly effects of the Citizens United Supreme Court decision are on full display right now, as the limitless deep pockets of corporations are wrecking havoc on the working man. If the Unions (public or private) go down, we stand no chance against this behemoth. nnSince the bulk of Union labor in this country are public-sector, destroying public sector unions effectively destroys Unionizing over-all. The average Republican (or American, for that matter) – those “of few means” (as Michael Moore calls them) – who back their party based on social conservatism and other leanings, would be surprised when all this comes to a head, the middle-class is detroyed, and wages take a nose-dive. This is a scary and dangerous time in our nation’s history. nnYes, we are almost a 3rd World Country now. God save us.

You’re wrong in your analysis, pal.nnIf the S-Corp’s NET income is $250,000, then that means their “operating expenses, insurance, payroll, overhead,” etc. have all been ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR! A business only pays taxes on “PROFITS” (after ALL expenses – including all the costs you list above – have been accounted for!)nnIn fact, the new OBAMA tax law allows small businesses an additional (ON TOP OF ALL THE OTHER BREAKS THEY GET) 50% tax deduction on all new tangible depreciating assets in their businesses. THIS IS HUGE! nnStop twisting the truth.

Comrade Moore would have the State of Wisconsin confiscate all private property and turn it into cash and use that to help pay the bills.nnSeems that some other commies had that idea long before comrade Michael came along.

Jobs go overseas because investors seek to maximize profits by exploiting the most desperate workers. Corporate business has a long history of fleeing organized labor both within the USA and across boarders. Without labor unions American workers would all be wage slaves in debt to the company store, dying young from industrial pollution and the lack of safety standards. Corporations would rule as feudal lords. There would be no minimum wage, no 40 hr week, no benefits of any kind. Just the “privilege” of making the rich richer. There must be checks and balances to make democracy work. There is nothing free about “free market economics” except a free ride for the rich.

Your math is faulty. Operating expenses are all written off before taxable income is calculated. Unions become corrupt when their leaders join the ranks of the rich and powerful and exploit their membership. The scum rises to the top.

Unfortunately I share your fears. The USA isn’t “broke” but there is much here that is broken. We have been trained to have unreasonable expectations. We are entertained by stories in which problems are solved with violence. Low-brow comedians pose as political pundits and politicians behave like celebrities. Corruption is rampant and people are upset for good reasons. The people who should be joining together to change things are sharply divided over cultural, emotional issues being manipulated by clever propagandists. There is much heat and very little light. History seems to be a forgotten subject. Our “leaders” are busy following the money and getting and staying rich is the new moral high ground. “Christians” want to have lots of guns and think that helping the needy is just subsidizing losers. Who wants to be a millionaire? Why, everyone, of course! As long as I get mine, what else matters? Leaders like Gandhi, M.L.K., Jesus and Buddha have little chance in such a culture.

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Read above-Answer my questions- What is rich and what is fair share.No one ever answers this question. Pick apart the math all you want. I agree on the 2 things I added, it was late last night-no excuse. “All the Small business breaks”-where are you getting your info. Let me guess, you don’t own your company. Do you understand your own comments on the 50% tax deductions. By the way, not your pal.

Absolutely wrong. I work for a company that is non-union and they just sent a lot of jobs to Thailand because of the tax breaks they get to do that and the cheap labor and lack of environmetal regulation. Do you want to work for a $1 a day? The super rich are taking an ever increasing bigger share of the total income in this country. Do you really want to go back to the days of the serfs? Working for overlords? Unions are responsible for our 40 hour work week, weekends off, holidays off, decent health care benefits. Unions are the reason there is a middle class in this country.

My math is faulty -I was wrong to say the overhead and insurance-late night. The fact is that if a company wants to buy equipment or trucks or whatever-its still comes from the net profit. Read below-If I purchase 100,000 worth of equipment-my write off is about 30,000 with Obama’s tax break. It still cost 70,000 for that one year. That leaves 80,000 for the year. Is this rich. Each year, to grow a small business, you must spend the money to make the money. Everyone thinks that the people in the top tax bracket are super rich. Nothing wrong with making money. The problem is, the left hates anyone that is in this bracket. 80% of all jobs are provided by small business owners. Yes the union leaders are pigs. They say they care about their people-not true. Its all about putting money in their pockets.I do want to know, what is considered being rich. alansyn goes after the super rich. Most companies started as small companies & became bigger companies. Is this bad to provide jobs for people. There will always be the super rich-some by luck, some by hard work. The problem is they make up such a small percentage of the population. Yet, that’s all we hear about from the left. I’ll continue later-baby crying.

You really want to know what is “rich” and “fair,” bugger? (seeing I’m not your “pal”). Two things:nn1. Watch Jon Stewart’s expose (front page of this website) of the hypocrisy of Fox News and other Conservative commentators’ takes on this subject – teachers making $51,000/yr VS those “sharks” making $250,000/yr. These commentators (your callous ilk) shamelessly call the teachers “overpaid,” while swearing up and down the hill, pounding their desks, that those bankers (nation-wreckers) are, in fact, really “poor.”nn2. “Fairness” hearkens back to our nation’s perception of what is just, what is right, and a progressive tax system steeped in our Judeo-Christian cultural roots and beliefs: “to whom much is given, much is expected.” Jesus extolling “the widow’s mite” as being far more weighty than the tons of “gold” given by the rich, because “the rich” still had far more excess and abundance even after their millions paid in taxes/donations/whatever, whereas the poor/middle-class truly feel the pinch of anything they give or pay in taxes.

There’s nothing wrong with being an entrepreneur, but do it in a moral, compassionate, sustainable way. Don’t oppress your workers like Walmart does, don’t pollute or deplete the natural environment like so many loggers and energy companies do & then try to avoid cleaning up their messes like Chevron’s fiasco in Ecuador. Sure, get yourself to a place where you can live in a comfortable house, educate your kids, and have a little fun, but no one needs multiple mansions or a private jet or billions of dollars in the bank. That’s hoarding money and resources that millions of people in the US and around the world need to survive. It’s immoral and selfish to be “rich” the way our top 2% are rich. In traditional cultures, such hoarding was considered a mental illness. Being rich doesn’t make people happy, helping others and being part of a strong, vibrant, healthy community does. Do the right thing and your mental health will thank you.

Hang in there, Coxhere! There are millions who share your hope for a better society and who are working hard to make it happen. America is a land of opportunity, and opportunity only comes from a good education, provided by teachers who are paid a competitive salary and work day and night to raise thoughtful, caring individuals with a sense of civic duty like yours. There are so many things we can all do to work towards a better day – I hope you see the movie “I Am” and start teaching everyone you know about how important unions and public sector work is. Read the free press, boycott Fox News and its corporate-sponsored brainwashing lies, and do a little something every day to improve the lives of your neighbors, your town, and your country. If we all do that, we cannot help but succeed.

It’s all about the rich getting richer and more powerful. Go Wisconsin!!

Republicans are immoral, hateful, broken people. That’s what bonds them. Everything they stand for hurts or takes something away from someone else. Be it rights, privileges, money , job security, education, healthcare, home heating allowances, social security, etc…nnOnly a sociopath wants to end abortion, stop poor women from getting birth control and end food stamps for children at the same time. BROKEN!

Come on-watch Jon Stewart, that’s like asking me to watch Keith Olbermann. They are so left there off the charts. Hey-watch Shawn Hannity-I am sure you will give me the same response. The funny thing is, I watch all channels. By far MSNBC is the worst. What bothers me about the left is they always take the word of MSNBC,CNN, ABC and all the other left wing media channels to get there news on FOX. Watch fox for a week-not Shawn Hannity but Bill O’Reilley. At least I can say I watch all channels. The left just takes the left wing media’s word for it. If you want to be informed watch both sides. By the way, are all the bankers republicans. I get so tired of the left with their hate with fox news when they never watched it. At least come to the discussion with something better then Jon Stewart. So anyone making 250,000 is a shark. I will ask the question one more time,”what is rich and what is paying your fair share”. Why does the left scream about the rich, but can’t answer my question. Your answer on # 2 sounds like a typical left wing response-Just answer the question. Don’t forget to research your history when it comes to the bankers getting rich-if you are talking about the mortgage situation. Think back to the mid 90′s and what congress wanted for all Americans-the right to own their own home. Democrat thinking. Before I get into a long discussion on politics-do some research on this subject.In 2003 & 2005 Bush warned congress and the senate about Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae problems. In 2005 Bush tried to push legislation on a reform bill that would create a new regulator authorized to reduce the size of FM and FM investment portfolios. Democrats blocked the bill on the senate floor. Yet – the democrats blame the financial crisis on the Republicans saying they pushed deregulation. Not True. Check your history please. In response to # 1, I think I happened to be watching Fox that day. I think the one lady was wrong to defend the bankers but why do we always blame are problems on bankers. How many are there in the US, in terms of bankers, that make over 1 million. Lets say 100,000, 200,000, lets say 1 million. This is still only .333 % of the population. Lets get over it. Try to better your financial situation and stop worrying about the bankers-I am sure there not holding you back. They sure the hell didn’t hold me back.

I have to stop coming to this site- Its killing me. Reading the one below this is –I ll just say WOW! Who is this person to tell everyone what they should and shouldn’t have-OBama.

You state “If people don’t have good paying jobs”, Who do you think provides these jobs-Its called the employer. This is the guy that works 80-90 hours a week, never see’s his family, takes all the risk, can’t go on unemployment, doesn’t get Government help when he files bankruptcy, puts his but on the line to employ other people. You need to wake up-The employer is the one who feeds your family and pays your bills. The rest of us-NO. You lose your job, you go on unemployment. Employer loses company- he loses everything. Go start your own company and see how easy it is.

read Julia deak and alansyn-they live in la la land. They complain about companies, but I bet you, they work for one. If these people think companies are so bad, then they should find another way of making money-thats right-its call welfare.

I don’t have any problem with hard working small employers in this country. They are the backbone of this country. But that employer can’t earn anything without labor to put out his product and consumers to buy his product. Stop thinking about fighting labor and start thinking about those rich enough that don’t care if everyone is unemployed in this country because they can still get what they need from the low paid workers in other countries.

This is in response to your response. I’ll keep it short. What do you mean the employer can’t earn anything without workers-Not true- I made plenty of money on my own-no workers. The difference between a owner and employee is that the owner usually works double the amount of time that the employee does. I made good money because I worked for it. The big bankers and Giant corporations didn’t stop me. I could care less about them. The company grew so I decided to grow with adding employees. Did I help in providing jobs-yes. Did I need to grow the business -no. This is how corporation grow and become bigger-Its not always about greed and big fat cats. I enjoy knowing I employ many people. Just because a owner makes alot of money doesn’t mean he is unfair to his employees or paying them poorly. This idea seems to come from the left. Rich boss= Poorly paid employee. Its not true. What is rich enough-I always ask this question but no one,– I mean no one, can answer this question. I am a firm supporter of my people but, I don’t think they should make as much as me. The owner has all the risk. Lets say my company grows and I become one of those fat cats. Is this wrong-After all,I did start from the bottom and did pay above standard wages in my industry. I thought this was the American dream. In the eyes of the left this is no good.This makes no sense no matter how you spin it. Read some of my other posts-all the left talks about is the rich. Very small percentage of the public. If you want to get ahead-find a job where there is room to move up or start your own business. Until then-stop bad mouthing the rich bankers and wall street pigs. They never stopped me from achieving what I wanted. It starts with hard work.

No, you live in la la land and it’s called Fox News. Do some research. Fox News lies and there is plenty of independent confirmation of that. Oh, I forgot. You are too busy making money. So why do you waste your time on this site?

Once again,republicans argue with facts, liberals argue with emotions. Show me this confirmation -send me to a web site, come up with something to prove your statement. I bet you can’t. I waste my time on this site to help the la la land people to come back to reality. Its always good to listen to both sides. By listening to one sided news your becoming a Kool aid drinker. This holds true for democrats and republicans.By the way-how many times have you watched fox news. I bet you get your news, about Fox news, from—let me see—MSNBC,CNN,ABC,-yeah there fair and balanced. They never lie. Are you kidding, MSNBC is the king of spin. If you would like, I can provide proof. Don’t be so hateful-some day you will better yourself and stop hating the job providers-sorry, the rich. By the way, you never answered any of my questions from before. I am very surprised-not really-emotions vs facts. Tell me how wrong I am -But you know you can’t. Feel free to write back-take care-I am going back to work to make money. If you would like to discuss Unions-I would love to hear about them.

No actually we just believe in freedom, especially from those who believe it is their ‘right’ to compel me to work 1/3 of the year to funnel cash and benefits to them. The government is the organization which takes my money without my consent !

When someone puts money in a bank it becomes available for others to borrow to help them grow their business. When the government takes the money in taxes it gives it to people who would not be getting it except for the power of the government to take it from one group and give it to another. The first way is voluntary and people make rational economic decisions about their money. The second way is a political process which ends up being wasteful. Look at Defense Dept, Soc Security, Medicaid Medicare, they are all bankrupting us since eventually such an uneconomic process ‘runs out of other people’s money’ Mike Moore would have you believe that the answer is just to take the ‘rich’ s money even more. We could grab it all and the gov’t would spend it in a year and we then would be like Cuba or North Korea.

The Republican agenda is about racism, hatred of the poor and a willingness to employ people at 3rd world wages. There is no freedom in poverty or silence of the people. I don’t care if your politics are right or left – are they top to bottom? Because of you’re not at the top, you’re headed for the bottom and you can get there on crumbling roads and across the bridges before they collapse. This country is going down the proverbial sh*thole and all we get is attacks on family planning, gay marriage, etc….WTF!

I wonder how much of his money Michael Moore has gladly given away so that he can really be equal to the people he proports to be helping? I would guess that he paid his taxes (after having his CPA cut it down as much as he could) and gave a tiny amount to some of his causes. The rest he has invested in the stock market, real estate and other CAPITALIST ways. He is not talking about the governments being broke, he is still trying to TAKE your money and give it someone else. Why should these government employee unions enjoy the security, double the pay and double the benefits that their private sector counterparts do not get. All they while unemployment in the private sector is 9% and only miniscule in the public sector?

Huge, only if your company can afford to purchase any assets during this downturn!!!

You mean like George Soros?

Who made you the watchdog of who can have what? Have you ever worked for Walmart, I bet not. They provide more jobs than just about any company in this country. They have benefits for their full timers and ANYONE can move up in their company. Even without a union. Becuase that is the left’s real problem with Walmart nonunion!!

Have you, )not someone else that tells you that) actually watched Fox news?

So without the government, we just can’t function? Really? I think you really have backwards!!!