'Every Time Two Gays Get Married, A Traditional Family Explodes'

I’m fine with gays marrying, heroin addicts shooting up 24/7, attending your choice of church or congregation (or not), making millions, billions, or even trillions, or being flat out broke, but …n… don’t harm my person, property, or family, and don’t take MY money to solve YOUR problems, and DEFINITELY do not take MY money to solve the problems of OTHERS whom YOU deem as appropriate.nIt’s all about personal responsibility and accountability. Government should have limited role in society.

Gay sex has nothing to do with marriage. It is fruitless, sterile and selfish. It can never be lifegiving. It is never marriage. Live as you like, but let’s don’t change the language to make you believe that gay sex is natural and good. It is not. It is an abomination.

according to your bible:n1) so is sex before marriagen2) so is eating shellfish,n3) so is judging the activities of another human being i quote “judgement is mine sayeth the lord”- jesus christn4) so is having a child out of wedlockn5) so is presuming to know the mind of god (wich you seem to think you do)nnthe bible was not written by God it was written by 13 men at the council of Nicea. really if you insist on being a biggot then at least know wtf you are talking about.nnEnjoy your eternity in hell, you have certainly earned it according to your own beleifs.

ohh yeah, and according to your bible, Jesus Christ never said 1 bad thing about homosexuality, he only gave 1 commandment:nTo love each other and to treat each other as you wish to be treated.naccording to JC that commandment supersedes any others, especially given that by your beleifs JC was God made flesh.nLOL

Russell,nI did not judge a single human being. I judged an act. It is good to condemn and evil act. I did not need to rely on the Bible to know that a homosexual act is unnatural. In Laws, even Plato said homosexuality is an abomination. He was born before Christ. The council of Nicea did not write the Bible. The Council compiled the list of books that were thought to be the inspired word of God. I wish you eternal life in heaven. I would never want anyone to go to hell.

Real love speaks the truth.

I’m free from all this….no angst, no stress, ….don’t give a rat’s arse about bigoted opions. Being an atheist….gosh, the freedom, the ecstasy…good gosh, it’s nearly orgasmic.

I’m so lucky to be free of such angst, the anger, bigotry, hate and foolishness. As an atheist I’m free from the stress and want nothing more than for human beings to value the time they have here as it’s all you get. Make it good, make it count, make a difference, pay it forward.

There is nothing selfish about sex, be it gay or straight. Sex is about the people involved, and nobody else. You are incredibly selfish for assuming that what goes on behind somebody else’s closed doors is “an abomination”. Giving life is not the entire point of sex, or heterosexual couples unable to conceive wouldn’t have any reason to participate either, and you aren’t condemning them.nnMarriage is NOT about sex, nor is it about children, THANK YOU! Marriage is about LOVE. To deny love an expression such as marriage is selfish, and appalling as human beings.nnGet off your soapbox. Realize that the world does not share your views. When you can mature enough to understand that different opinions are okay, you will realize that you cannot dictate others’ lives by your opinions.

I liked your 1st comment “real love speaks the truth” but then I read this and I realize you are just an ignorant bigot. I will never be able to have children so does that mean that when I have sex it is “fruitless, sterile and selfish. It can never be lifegiving. It is never marriage.” -so only fertile women and men can marry?nThe only abomination I see is you spewing hate and lies. nBTW if you base marriage on sex(which you make abundantly clear in your post) then you do not know what marriage really is nor do you know what LOVE is and the role it plays in 2 peoples desire to marry.

Oh yeah seriously because there’s not hundreds of thousands of homeless kids around the world that don’t already need homes right? I hope you don’t consider yourself a Christian!

Why would a traditional family explode if two gays got married? Regardless of whether or not you or anyone else view gay relationships/gay marriages as an abomination, we NEED TOLERANCE MORE THAN EVER NOW. To a straight person, a gay person is abnormal. To a straight person, someone who is handicapped is abnormal, and yet, straight people make fun of both handicapped and gay people directly or indirectly. That is WRONG. Would it be right if I posted something that said, “Every time two handicapped children are born, a traditional family explodes”? Forget about the “Hate the sin not the sinner” mentality. Adults NEED to set examples for the young-everyone’s young, not just your own. And some of those young are born differently or they are molested and become “different,” and yes, some are born handicapped. Either way, it is not their fault that they are the way they are. And they KNOW they are different. They don’t like being different, but they are who they are. The handicapped person doesn’t like being different, but they are the way that they are too. And just like we can’t make a handicapped person “refrain” from being handicapped, we cannot make a gay person straight. Teaching the young that it is okay to going around and hate the homosexual’s sin, laugh and make jokes about them and the handicapped is wrong. This is why teen suicide is so high. Teens want nothing more than to feel that they are accepted. Adults want nothing more than to feel that they too are accepted. Adult’s cannot accept it when their own child is born handicapped or gay because society has frowned upon it, and society makes that adult question whether or not they themselves did something to cause their child to be the way they are, and that is wrong too. It seems like we are a society that has to be or appear to be perfect lest we be judged by all of those starring eyes. When are we going to grow up as a society and do like Jesus told us to do…LOVE EVERYONE?? You are lying to yourself if you truly believe in your heart that you are loving someone who is different when you clearly feel the need to waste your time and energy trying to point out the sin in a person. Please, worry about your own sins. You are not Jesus and you cannot save other people. Save yourself. Pray for the sinners, but don’t point out their sins. nnSo now you are wondering about me, right? You want to know what right I have to scold you. Well, for starters, I am a Christian and I am straight. I too was once just like you. I loved to point out the sin in everyone. Like you, I thought I was helping this or that person. I was trying to save them from eternal damnation. It wasn’t until my now ex-husband came to me and told me that he wanted a divorce because he was gay that I had to question whether or not my actions were right. I found out that my actions were wrong, VERY wrong. I had to forgive my ex, the man I loved very much; the man I was married to for 20 years; the man that was an excellent husband and an excellent father. Could I forgive him for being gay? Could I accept him for who he was? COULD I ACCEPT HIS SIN?? My mind was a mess. I searched everywhere for answers. I went to gay sites to try and understand gays. I went to God in prayer constantly, but my own prejudice about “sins” got in the way of forgiving and loving my ex UNCONDITIONALLY. Now my ex lives with another man in another state. We talk often. I love him more now then I did when I was married to him because now I love him UNCONDITIONALLY. And, loving someone without judging them is peaceful. Praying about the sin and not pointing the sin out IS loving someone properly. Accepting someone just the way they are is loving that person exactly like Christ commanded us to do when He said,”Love everyone.” nnI pray that everyone who reads this is blessed by it. I pray that whomever reads this can read it non-judgmentally. LOVE LIKE GOD DOES ~ + ~

Why would a traditional family explode if two gays got married? Regardless of whether or not you or anyone else view gay relationships/gay marriages as an abomination, we NEED TOLERANCE MORE THAN EVER NOW. To a straight person, a gay person is abnormal. To a straight person, someone who is handicapped is abnormal, and yet, straight people make fun of both handicapped and gay people directly or indirectly. That is WRONG. Would it be right if I posted something that said, “Every time two handicapped children are born, a traditional family explodes”? Forget about the “Hate the sin not the sinner” mentality. Adults NEED to set examples for the young-everyone’s young, not just your own. And some of those young are born differently or they are molested and become “different,” and yes, some are born handicapped. Either way, it is not their fault that they are the way they are. And they KNOW they are different. They don’t like being different, but they are who they are. The handicapped person doesn’t like being different, but they are the way that they are too. And just like we can’t make a handicapped person “refrain” from being handicapped, we cannot make a gay person straight. Teaching the young that it is okay to going around and hate the homosexual’s sin, laugh and make jokes about them and the handicapped is wrong. This is why teen suicide is so high. Teens want nothing more than to feel that they are accepted. Adults want nothing more than to feel that they too are accepted. Adult’s cannot accept it when their own child is born handicapped or gay because society has frowned upon it, and society makes that adult question whether or not they themselves did something to cause their child to be the way they are, and that is wrong too. It seems like we are a society that has to be or appear to be perfect lest we be judged by all of those starring eyes. When are we going to grow up as a society and do like Jesus told us to do…LOVE EVERYONE?? You are lying to yourself if you truly believe in your heart that you are loving someone who is different when you clearly feel the need to waste your time and energy trying to point out the sin in a person. Please, worry about your own sins. You are not Jesus and you cannot save other people. Save yourself. Pray for the sinners, but don’t point out their sins. nnSo now you are wondering about me, right? You want to know what right I have to scold you. Well, for starters, I am a Christian and I am straight. I too was once just like you. I loved to point out the sin in everyone. Like you, I thought I was helping this or that person. I was trying to save them from eternal damnation. It wasn’t until my now ex-husband came to me and told me that he wanted a divorce because he was gay that I had to question whether or not my actions were right. I found out that my actions were wrong, VERY wrong. I had to forgive my ex, the man I loved very much; the man I was married to for 20 years; the man that was an excellent husband and an excellent father. Could I forgive him for being gay? Could I accept him for who he was? COULD I ACCEPT HIS SIN?? My mind was a mess. I searched everywhere for answers. I went to gay sites to try and understand gays. I went to God in prayer constantly, but my own prejudice about “sins” got in the way of forgiving and loving my ex UNCONDITIONALLY. Now my ex lives with another man in another state. We talk often. I love him more now then I did when I was married to him because now I love him UNCONDITIONALLY. And, loving someone without judging them is peaceful. Praying about the sin and not pointing the sin out IS loving someone properly. Accepting someone just the way they are is loving that person exactly like Christ commanded us to do when He said,”Love everyone.” nnI pray that everyone who reads this is blessed by it. I pray that whomever reads this can read it non-judgmentally. LOVE LIKE GOD DOES ~ + ~

So a woman and a man who marry and never have children because they don’t like kids are living in abomination of god? Do you have like 15 kids or something? nnFuthermore, Plato DID NOT believe that homosexulatity is an abomination. He simple restated what barbarians believed… and DISAGREED with it!! nn”herever it has been established that it is shameful to be involved in homosexual relationships, this is due to evil on the part of the legislatures, to despotism on the part of the rulers and to cowardism on the part of the governed.”nnIn Rome, gays married LEGALLY! For CENTURIES even after jesus christ. Up until the 13 century , christians were gay.. We can blame this all on Thomas Aquinas.. and around this time attacks were launched on women, jews, and muslims..nnlastly, , “objections to homosexuality are not biblical, they are not consistent, they are not part of Jesus’ teaching; and they are not even fundamentally Christian”nnOne should probably do research before posting on a subject you clearly do not know anything about.nnWife & Mom .. supporter of Gay Rights!

So, Navymum,nnYou and the hubby never tried anal? nnJust sayin…

I would reply to you but the website is blocking me.

I thought the traditional family is the one to make Gays!! Duh!! Think about that one folks!!! Blame the straights they make them!! GO GAYS!!!!!

Not all straight people believe Gays are an abomination!! Some of us with greater intelegence know this is not a chosen way of life! And If you don’t get it your an idiot stuck in time when humans howled at the moon!! It’s 2011 get over yourselves! !!!

wow, I see you chose certain laws/rules that are in the Bible.nnbut did you know that the NT is the fulfillment of the OT? In that Jesus gives us a new comandment and way of living. We no longer have to follow the old way of living of judges and laws, we now follow Jesus.nnthe council of Nicea compiled what they thought were the inspired writtings nnbut you are free to believe what you want.nnyou also might want to read Rob Bell’s new book on Heaven and Hell…just a suggestion.

There are plenty of heterosexuals couples who do not, either by choice or circumstance, create life. Is that unnatural, too? Also, in nature (which we are actually a part of–shocking!) there are homosexual animals. Homosexuality is as natural for some as heterosexuality is for others. Your argument is stupid and childish.

Is it typical for you to base your beliefs system on ancient belief systems? Have you not evolved at all?

Funny. I can reply to her post with no problem.

I think I really like you, Kelly! :)

This was a joke, poking fun of the iditos who actually believe gay marriage hurts traditional families. Lighten up, Francis.

I think a lot of the real issue at the governmental level concerning marriage of gays is that in traditional, real marriage, between a man and woman, there are tax breaks, incentives, etc. because they are likely to produce one or more children, thus adding to the population and future workforce of America. Gays cannot have children and should therefore not be given the same economic incentives/tax breaks that real marriages receive from the government. I really don’t care if they get ‘married’ but they need to change the laws for marriages that can produce offspring and for those who cannot.

I think a lot of the real issue at the governmental level concerning marriage of gays is that in traditional, real marriage, between a man and woman, there are tax breaks, incentives, etc. because they are likely to produce one or more children, thus adding to the population and future workforce of America. Gays cannot have children and should therefore not be given the same economic incentives/tax breaks that real marriages receive from the government. I really don’t care if they get ‘married’ but they need to change the laws for marriages that can produce offspring and for those who cannot.

No they don’t. I have two gay 1/2 brothers and MANY gay frat brothers, this is silly.

As much as we claim that we must evolve and change we fail to see one fundamental truth. Complacency and contentment leads to sedition on all levels regarding a rightous and truly progressive path. Why has humanity failed to achieve its full potential. People want this people want that, we want our rights, but we want the government to do everything for us, we want forward progress, but we want to hamper population growth by making gay sex and marriage a good thing. We martyr those who do the abominable just because it gives us a cause to rally behind. Pick a path, stick to it and humanity could achieve great things, evolution is what is truly for the week minded, we set ourselves on a path we cannot follow through with, war, we cried out as a whole nation after 9-11 however shortly after we took up arms defending those same terrorists through protests on the homefront. We are a great nation because despite what you may thing of our leaders they have stood strong in the face of adversity, when we worry about what the rest of the world thinks of us we fail to achieve our potential. Why do we want to accept gays, not because we believe they actually have rights, very few of you do, even the ones who say they do, but because our government stands righteously agaisnt it and since you dont want the world to know that deep down inside you want the government to coddle you and take care of everything for you, you have decided to take a stand, and you can rely on the rest of the world for support. Were a super power and always will be, now, i know the argument china owns us, one day we wont be and we need to be level with the rest of the world. Well hear this, we have the greatest military might in the world, we have technology that far outpowers that of any other nation. If China or any other nation says you owe us were coming and taking over we just begin a mobilization effort and they will back off, if they dont then we may go down in a global war, but i assure you before i let my nation fall from its state of glory i will fight to the death. SO stop worry about what other nations think, complacency and your so called acceptance of faggots, mostly to boost your tree hugging hippie self righteous egos, and not because you really care, protests to war and republicans, and your blind support of the liberals who care more about their public image than they do about you or our nation. Stand firm behind something worth standing behind, something that will last, there are unnaceptable actions and beliefs, these beliefs cause sedition, we are a free people, but sometimes i thing we are the people least deserving of freedom, see how you squander it, see how you beg for the goverment to rule your lives, then stand up against it just to prove you have freedom, you heretics, you hypocrits, this love for gays is just part of a bigger problem in america, a problem that will destroy our contry faster than and war ever could, a problem defined by sedition, complacency, and an outright disrespect for those who gave their lives bringing you this life you hold so dear, why is it when a soldier is killed we do not mourn we take up arms about how what he died for was wrong, is that really respect for him, if he willingly gave his life applaud his decision, dont berate the very thing he died for, however if a faggot is killed we stand up and make a huge scene, it is all over the news, the soldier who died defending this country is forgot about and all anyone cares about is this gay guy who did nothing with his life other than die and give the self rightous with nothing better to do something to protest about and make a big deal out of. The saddest thing i think is that society gets more up in arms about Fred Phelps protesting gays, than we do about him picketing our military funerals, we dont deserve freedom as a nation, we have squandered it and shown that we are weak minded and unable to unify, and why, because people need to feel self righteous and stand for anything, even if they dont really believe in it.figure out whats important people, the fact that gays cant get married or that fact that a force known as terrorism threatens the whole world and the sanctity of our good nation, but youve already made your decision, protest against those defending our country from a menace who would see you dead as soon as look at you, but only protest the war when were not fighting fro gays to have their rights. THis statement has more truth than you think, every time we cry out for gays and most of you are liberals who dont support our war effort and by extension our troops. You protest for gays at the same time while your not supporting our troops overseas, because all you care about is your self righteous liberal agenda, imagine that lack of support is what makes a soldier lose his focus and get blown up by an ied, his family will never see him ever again, but while you werent supporting him and his effort to defend us you did manage to get gays one more insurance benefit, good job, hope you feel good about yourself.

Uh, that’s your personal belief. Since we are a free country, we do not legislate people’s beliefs. We do not legislate opinions.nnIt’s hilarious when someone inserts nothing but their own beliefs and tries to present them as facts. Lol. They’re not.nTo the rest of the country, outside of your like-minded friends or colleagues, you sound like a crazy person, and an arrogant one at that.nnDo you really think that your religious belief trumps other citizens’ equal rights? Lol. They don’t.nnSoon, gay marriage will be an accepted norm, as it should’ have been all along, and you will be on the wrong side of history. Just like those who were against bi-racial marriages, women’s rights, etc.nnThere is no justifying bigotry. nnPS: I’m not even “one of those,” I’m not gay, and I don’t have to be to recognize that those who are deserve equal rights. I’m just not crazy. Or a bigot.

Why does the act of gay sex bother you so much? nHow much time do you people spend thinking about gay sex? I mean, really?nnThis is about gay marriage-the relationship, the commitment, the love, the family. You’re the one bringing up gay sex, repeatedly. nnI hope EVERY time you’ve ever had or will have sex, it resulted in a child, b/c otherwise, it was fruitless, sterile, and selfish. It was, and will be, an abomination.

Should married straight people w/out kids lose such benefits, too? I can’t stand such superior attitudes from such uneducated bigot: nScrew everyone else who isn’t just. like. you. nnWhat gives you the right to decide what constitutes a “real” marriage? nJudgmental and ignorant-such an unfortunate combination.